From: madonna-digest-owner@mlvc.org (Madonna-Digest) To: madonna-digest Subject: Madonna-Digest V7 #447 Reply-To: madonna@mlvc.org Sender: madonna-digest-owner@mlvc.org Errors-To: madonna-digest-owner@mlvc.org Precedence: bulk Madonna-Digest Friday, November 27 1998 Volume 07 : Number 447 Re: )|(: Madonna influence on Cher's new album )|(: Madonna's Karmic Insight Report Re: )|(: BAD BILLBOARD CHARTS )|(: Re: Mad About Madonna? Or dumb? )|(: Madonna, TV, "Truth or Dare" gameshow )|(: Re: fans out of TOTP )|(: Madonna AT Celine's Network Concert!!! Re: )|(: new Billboard charts )|(: re: this week's billboard )|(: Madonna's Fave's Re: )|(: Madonna: Please DON'T work with any spice girl )|(: I got a dependency Re: )|(: Moving to London... Re: )|(: "ROL" unreleased tracks?? )|(: Collectors READ! 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Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:44:11 +0100 From: electronic punk Subject: Re: )|(: Madonna influence on Cher's new album Robert Bonomi wrote: > > Does anyone agree that songs form Cher's new album "Believe" are Madonna > influenced? > > Such as the beginning of the song "Runaway" sounds like "Sky Fits Heaven" > and the ending sounds like "Frozen"? > Also, the beginning of "All or Nothing" sound the same as "Little Star"? > > The whole album has a Veronica Electronica feel to it. ..... . .I find this > remarkable as I read somewhere that Madonna > was going to direct one of Cher's music videos. > > Does anyone wish to comment further? I'd like to. Why did you say that the album has Veronica Electronica feel to it? Why not electronica feel? It's not like Madonna defined electronica music. Believe it or not, but there are artists that made electronica inspired albums before. With that whether Cher songs on 'Believe' sound like Madonna's 'Ray Of Light' songs. It's funny with Madonna fans that they hear Madonna everywhere. That shows just how much of an influence has her music on listening to music in general. We hear Madonna everywhere, even when she's not there. I hope you know what I mean. Sometimes we do overreact. Especially when we call all other artists copycats. Some of you are so sensitive that an artist is copying Madonna when he or she uses the same producer or same DJs to produce their songs. It's not really fair, and sometimes it can get really hypocritical. But I guess this one characteristic of some Madonna fans David PS: Some of you really annoy the shit out of me. Thank God that at least David has changed. Some list celebreties can be so arrogant sometimes. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:53:44 EST From: MSCICCONE@aol.com Subject: )|(: Madonna's Karmic Insight Report I found this while searching around AOL last night-thought maybe you would want to read it. << Karmic Insight Report for Madonna August 16, 1958 7:05 AM Bay City, Michigan One of the most wonderful things about the language and symbolism of astrology is that it can point out not only who we are and where we may be going in the future, but also and maybe most importantly, where we are coming from! Our Karmic Insight Report reveals issues you have brought into this lifetime to resolve and learn from. Often, these issues and emotions, as well as talents and goals, stem from prior life experiences. Your natal horoscope or birth chart is also a portrait of your soul's intention for this lifetime: the lessons to be learned, qualities to be developed, problems to be resolved, services to be rendered. From that perspective, the choices one makes in one's daily life have reverberations that may last beyond even this lifetime. Our Karmic Insight report can help you clarify your lessons and goals, illuminate your struggles, and encourage you to move in the direction of your true purpose. Yes, there is great pleasure and opportunity, and there is also great pain and struggle. If you can understand the messages beneath it, you are on your path; growing and evolving into a whole, loving and tolerant person. Enjoy this wonderful journey that is your Life and Karma! __________________________________________________________ Sun 23 Leo 07 Pluto 1 Vir 43 Moon 11 Vir 33 N. Node 25 Lib 20 Mercury 5 Vir 39 Asc. 8 Vir 15 Venus 0 Leo 32 MC 3 Gem 45 Mars 15 Tau 23 2nd cusp 6 Lib 49 Jupiter 26 Lib 24 3rd cusp 5 Sco 16 Saturn 19 Sag 08 5th cusp 10 Cap 29 Uranus 12 Leo 42 6th cusp 9 Aqu 56 Neptune 2 Sco 18 Tropical Koch Standard time observed GMT: 12:05:00 Time Zone: 5 hours West Latitude and Longitude of birthplace: 43 N 35 40 83 W 53 20 Chapter 1: The Moon The placement of the Moon in your birth chart is very significant from a karmic perspective, as it indicates the accumulated karmic tendencies, both positive and negative, that you carry from your past incarnated experiences on earth. While the Sun reveals your intended purposes and lessons for this present life cycle, the MOON represents what you have already done and developed, hence, what is instinctive and natural to you, and what you tend to do over and over again. Your childhood is also reflected in the Moon's placement, as it is through those childhood circumstances that any unresolved past-life issues are re-stimulated. Your subconscious predisposition is indicated by the Moon's position. It is the psychic imprint of the past. The nodes of the Moon describe behavior patterns from the past, as well as delineating a direction out of outworn or overdone behaviors and habits. Moon in Virgo: You instinctively react to challenges or stress by dissecting and analyzing the problem (often obsessively), and you can be a compulsive worrier. You tend to feel that it is your responsibility to fix things, and blame yourself when things go awry. Also, you may respond by staying busy, busy, busy, throwing yourself into your work, cleaning, straightening, or putting things in order. Domestic chores in particular seem to soothe you, as you need tidiness and order in your surroundings to feel at ease internally, and you have a deeply ingrained need to be useful. You often feel guilty when you are not being productive or making a contribution. Conversely, you feel a lot of emotional satisfaction when you are accomplishing practical tasks, and especially when you are helping others in a real, concrete way. you enjoy being needed and taking care of people, "doing for others". hough you find giving very rewarding, you may also have been taught to deny yourself for others' sake, and you can be something of a martyr or a workaholic. If you find yourself giving but secretly resenting or criticizing others (the recipients of your "service"), you probably should re-examine the balance of giving and receiving in your life. In your incarnational past you devoted your life to serving other people (either in a religious order or, quite literally, as a servant), and you were strongly influenced by the puritan work/guilt ethic. This now makes it hard for you to relax and enjoy yourself, or to do for yourself, or you have a subconscious prohibition against it. You may feel disapproving and holier-than-thou when you see other people being or playing in a frivolous, extravagant way (when they "should be" working). You can be self-righteous but at the same time you are quite humble. Self-doubt and a definite tendency to underestimate your worth or importance are apt to be deeply-rooted habits. You need to learn to be less exacting and perfectionistic toward yourself (and, as a result, others around you,) in your home and in your closest relationships, try to be less concerned with tidiness, efficiency, or doing it "the right way", and more with accepting and empathizing. Strive for "good enough" rather than faultless. Learn to look for the positive elements of a situation or person, rather than what needs improvement. You were taught to be grateful for what you have been given, but not to ask for or expect much. Try to take that kernel of gratitude and expand upon it in finding as many things as possible to praise and be genuinely glad of. Simplicity may well be your innate preference, but it need not be joyless austerity. (Another series of past lifetimes which may presently influence you involved being a doctor, nurse, or healer. This carries over as a strong interest in heh, the science of nutrition and natural methods of healing, or choosing medicine or another of the helping professions as a career. You may be very particular about food, as a "heh fanatic". As with many things, you tend to be a bit compulsive about it. However, providing wholesome, nutritious meals is one way you nourish yourself and the people you care for. Baking your own bread maybe especially satisfying and therapeutic for you). Moon SemiSquare Jupiter: Prior lifetimes of great ease, luxury and what is considered "the good life" have engendered in you various tendencies which carry over into your present life cycle; a certain optimism, a taken-for-granted faith that whatever you need will be provided for, and the inclination to generously and easily share whatever good fortune you possess. When acting from these instincts, you are very open and freehanded, though perhaps indiscriminately and extravagantly so. You may support people or causes without thoroughly investigating them, out of this good hearted, brotherly attitude. Also from your incarnational past, there is the theme of having a big, warm family, many friends, and a wide range of social contacts. You were popular and influential in a social sense. An involvement in politics, law and/or religion (to the extent that the church dictated and organized people's lives) is indicated, and this carries over into the present as a desire for the same popularity and favor you once enjoyed. The desire to "do good" and contribute the betterment of your fellow man is a positive expression of this, and you do indeed possess an instinctive knowledge of how to appeal to the masses. However, beware of taking shortcuts, acting from greed, or trying to get something with relatively no effort. Also, trying to "buy" friends or gain a superficial popularity in order to puff up your own sense of importance are negative potentials. A tendency towards excess indulgence in rich living, good times, partying, food, drink or splurging on "only the best", needs to be held in check. If you manifest problems with your weight, water-retention, liver or gall bladder there may be karmic results of wastefulness and over consumption, the seeds of which were sown in your incarnational past. Moderation and temperance are needed, especially with fats and alcohol. North Node in Libra: In the past you had to rely primarily on yourself, and you are now moving toward cooperating, relating, including others, and interdependence. Learning how to relate fairly, considerately, and with thought for others is your growth direction. North Node in 2nd house: You may find your past tendency is activated whenever issues of shared or joint assets, legacies, or merging your resources with another's comes up. You succeed in your own financial affairs when you apply your new attitude (growth direction). Chapter 2: The Sun The Sun in your birth chart represents the primary creative thrust for this lifetime, those qualities you are to develop (or further develop) and express, and your current life focus. This may be in harmony with your instincts and your emotional habits, or along completely different lines. The Sun represents your conscious identity in this lifetime. Sun in Leo: Your path of soul development in this lifetime revolves around developing your awareness of yourself as a distinct, unique individual. It is not enough for you to simply be who and what you are, you must radiate your inner essence outwardly, express it, bring it forth in a creative way. hough ultimately your goal is self-discovery and self-recognition, you initially have a profound need to make an impression on others and to be recognized and appreciated by the world. In many ways you are like the eager child who delighted with the discovery of a new power or accomplishment, demands of all and sundry "See ME! Look what I can do!". Of course, you do this in subtler ways (usually!). Nevertheless, the joy of self-discovery and self-expression, and the yearning for "strokes", applause, and affirmation is very much present in you. Put simply, you tend to be rather fascinated with yourself. Your tendency to dramatize or exaggerate, and your desire to be the center of attention comes from a need to project yourself into the world in order to see yourself and what makes you special. However, your acute awareness of yourself as an individual can also lead to an excessive, constant self-consciousness which may actually inhibit your free flow of self-expression. You may feel that you are always on stage and have to perform, or have to be the best, because you are being watched (at least by yourself!). And you can be incredibly self-centered at times, blind to other people's realities and to the larger realm of life which does not revolve around you. It is imperative for you to find an area in which you can excel and shine and truly make a significant, personal contribution which matches your inner sense of nobleness. You must have a domain, one which is yours alone to shape and fashion according to your own inner dictates. Unless you are acting from your own heart, from your own core, you are not fulfilling your destiny. Thus, you will resist imitating and being dictated to by others, for your task is to find your own inner light and radiate it. While young you are apt to have heroes and images of greatness in whatever form most resonates with your heart. Ultimately you must become your own hero. The obvious potential down fall for you (in terms of spiritual growth) is becoming overly preoccupied with the more superficial aspects of your ego, your sense of pride and personal importance. At your worst you feel threatened by others' original, creative expression or their successes and are unable to give them the acclaim and recognition they have earned. It is as if no one else exists in their own light, except as extensions of yourself , minor characters in a play which stars you. But at your best you affirm not only your own worth and specialness, you also warmly encourage other people's creative talents and the blossoming of their potentials and greatness. You cherish individuality and creativity in other people and nurture that spark wherever you find it. And, once free from the great allure of and interest in your ego, you begin to fall in love with the creative process itself and to experience a great joy in being a part of life expressing itself, not only through you, but through others' lives as well. Chapter 3: Rising Sign The point that was on the eastern horizon at the moment of your birth is called the ASCENDANT, or rising sign. While the Sun describes your conscious direction and current life focus, and the moon your subconscious predisposition and past, the Ascendant indicates a way of being that transcends and embraces past, present, and future. It describes the way you engage and merge with the outer world and how you bring through into life the energies depicted by the sun, the moon, and the rest of your birth chart. Everything is filtered through the ascendant from an esoteric point of view. It indicates your soul's function and thus a key part of your destiny. Virgo Rising: You do everything skillfully with a fine sense of craftsmanship and precision, perfectionism, care and attention to detail. You are keenly observant and have an acute sensitivity to each and everything in your environment; therefore, you attend to small things that others do not readily notice . The subtleties, the fine points. You fulfill your soul function through service, assisting and helping others, perhaps in a rather humble, understated, unglamorous way, and doing a job for its own sake rather than for personal recognition or glory. Your simple desire to be useful and to be of service, your willingness to engage in ongoing practice in order to improve, and our willingness to change or adjust yourself according to the light you have a any given moment, enables you to fulfill your function. When out of balance, you criticize, worry, obsess about yourself and/or your heh or body, and tend to magnify problems. Virgo Rising and Mercury in Virgo: Your ruling planet, Mercury, is in Virgo as well, indicating a fine mind with a penchant for clear logical analysis, categorizing and classifying, and developing specialized skills, techniques, and expertise in some practical area. However, unless other factors in your birth chart suggest a breadth of vision and understanding, you are apt not only to forget the forest for the trees, but to forget the tree for the particular kind of bark. You can get lost in minutia, data, and facts, and be unable to perceive the overall direction or meaning. Moon Conjunct Asc.: You are to play the role of listener and supporter, dedicated coach, parent, or guardian, loyal devotee. You also have a deep intuitive sense of the public's needs, desires, tastes, and emotional requirements which enables you to work fruitfully with them. Mercury Conjunct Asc.: A thinker and a communicator, the use of your mind, your voice, your words are key elements of your contribution to life. Like Hermes, god of messages and messengers as well as of thieves and tricksters, you are also a bridge between people and ideas. Chapter 4: Saturn, Your Achilles Heel Karmically considered, the placement of Saturn in your birth chart indicates where your energetic blockages, weaknesses and fears lie, and the areas of your life where the most concentrated effort and discipline will be required to master and overcome them. Yet it also points to the aspects of life which can become your greatest strength if you are willing to face your fears and difficulties honestly, and work with them patiently. Saturn in Sagittarius Your struggle in life revolves around your personal search for meaning and faith. For you, it will be impossible to accept standard formulas for salvation or enlightenment, though you may be tempted to seek refuge in a rather rigid religious framework or dogmatic belief system. You are apt to become disillusioned by such, however, and suffer a loss of faith, or experience a spiritual crisis which at the core is really a call for you to go deeper and to search for truth in a much more focused and honest fashion. "What does it all mean?" is not simply rhetorical speculation for you. Unless you discover some answers not merely intellectually but in a direct, intuitive fashion that gives you real assurance, you are prone to despondency, a lack of hope, a sense of fatality or an anxious fear about the future. Spiritual authorities, groups, teachers, and teachings may play an important role in your life, but you must beware of becoming restricted by them, limiting yourself and your experience of life thereby. On the other hand, the use of ritual and regular devotional or meditative practices can be very helpful to you, as long as you do not become fixated upon the form. It is the spirit, the essence, that you are really seeking. You have a tendency to be pedantic, rule-bound, or close-minded, especially in your philosophical, religious or spiritual thinking. Saturn in 4th house: Your roots, background, origins, early home life and/or relationships with your parents is the arena where you most likely have been frustrated or suffered a lack of support (physical or emotional). Basic insecurities stemming from the legacy of your childhood need to be addressed and healed. Being neglected, deprived or burdened with responsibilities beyond a child's capacity may have robbed you of the sense of security a child derives from being taken care of. Quite possibly you were forced into fending for yourself earlier than you are developmentally ready for. Thus, as an adult you need to concentrate on building a solid inner base of security within yourself. One of the blessings here is that through this process you have the opportunity to find your "true home", a place within you that is the source of real security and nourishment. On an external level, owning your own home or property, an developing it over time, can be a way to help this process along. You have a tendency to isolate yourself and become a hermit, and at certain periods in your life this is necessary and good, or you develop the strength and self-esteem which were not nurtured in your beginnings. However, you should beware of closing people out entirely, and of rejecting intimacy, family ties or deep emotional investment. Saturn is Retrograde: All of the above is complicated by the fact that you carry a rather heavy burden of self-doubt, mistrust or guilt over having let yourself and others down in your past, when you struggled (and failed) with these same issues. You now have the opportunity to correct your course, make amends and resolve a difficult karmic tangle, or a difficult state of mind. Chapter 5: The Hard Aspects The following is a description of your MAJOR LIFE CHALLENGES, both in terms of energies you are to learn to develop and express in a positive way, and those which are the result of struggles and unresolved karmic issues that you have come into this life with. Mercury is Retrograde: A prior lifetime in which you were discouraged to think, learn or express your ideas is indicated. This may have carried over in this lifetime as a mild learning problem in childhood, or inner (somewhat unconscious) doubts about your ability to learn or to communicate. Thus, you have a habit of rechecking, reconsidering, reviewing and rethinking everything before you put it out. You may even have a desire to learn about subjects that seem archaic, to learn about those things which were denied to you in the past. Mercury Conjunct Pluto: You have a penetrating, incisive mind which cuts through surface appearances to the deeper, underlying heart-of-the-matter. Your perceptions and profound insights border at times on being truly uncanny, for you have the gift of being able to perceive the hidden, content concealed, disguised or suppressed aspects of a person, situation or subject. On a concrete level, this quality of mind impels you to be the researcher or investigator, searching out the unknown, uncovering a mystery. Even in casual social interaction you automatically perceive others' subconscious intentions and motives. You are very astute psychologically. Hence, your presence can be somewhat threatening to those who have secrets or who have much invested in and prefer not to go any deeper than that. This capacity carries with it, however, challenges and pitfalls. You may find yourself falling into a habit of a mind that is suspicious, paranoid, cynical or preoccupied with the dark underside of life, and this may skew your entire outlook. (You may also use your considerable insight, persuasiveness and mental power to try to manipulate others' thoughts and actions which would inevitably bring negative karmic results.) Verbally you can be quite cutting and hurtful. Realize that simply speaking "the truth" without mercy or sensitivity to how your words are received, can do more harm than good. At its worst this aspect would be expressed in a Machiavellian type of mind, utilizing your keen perception to manipulate and dominate others. Venus Square Neptune: You are in love with love, and your path in life, as well as many of your challenges, involves understanding and experiencing the realm of the heart. Irresistibly romantic, you have the soul of a poet, a ruptic, a devotee and above all, a lover. In its earliest stages of development, this pattern within, inclines you to be easily seduced, overcome with emotional yearning and infatuation, unable to discern the motives and intentions of others, particularly if the other person appears beautiful, soft, innocent or in need. You can confuse pity with love. You see the angel in the other person, and are deeply disillusioned to discover the selfishness or pordidness. Further on, your relationship with spirit may become paramount in your life, a relationship between lover and beloved. Your path is then what the Hindus refer to as "bhakti" - -spiritual devotion and service. This higher octave of love and widening of the heart's affections can be very beautiful, but herein lies the crux of some of your very human problems: "where are the limits or boundaries in relationships?" "Are there conditions in love, or is unconditional love the ideal?". Sorting out these questions and similar ones are part of what your life is about. Mars Square Uranus: You are like a very high-spirited, temperamental horse, full of great energy and drive, but also impulsive, erratic, fitful and prone to sudden starts and stops. Also there is within you a fierce independence, a strong craving for freedom and at times a fiery rebelliousness. If you have free rein, you can be relatively happy, though not ever completely "settled" or contentedly serene for long. Under conditions that are too structured and constricted, however, you are more apt to blow up. When out of balance you are prone to express yourself in ways that can have negative karmic consequences, such as; irritable impatience and a volatile, unpredictable temper (which can affect your heh as well as damage the trust and quality of your relationships), intense restlessness (resulting in an inability to persist with a project long enough to see it through to completion) a complete unwillingness to cooperate or compromise (which also can undermine relationships, particularly with authority), physical recklessness (which an lead to accidents), and/or the inclination to ignite controversy and unrest in your environment. Because of your high (if somewhat unstable) energy level you are apt to forge ahead, oblivious to the fact that you are running right over the people around you. You may believe you are your own law, or are above the law. Too much attachment to action and to being right are also potentials within you. Learning to slow down, developing patience and the capacity to wait and cultivating a more steady, peaceful spirit will enable you to express the higher creativity, originality and inspired passion you are capable of. Jupiter Conjunct North Node: As you follow your growth direction, you will attract teachers, benefactors, patrons, spiritual and material aid, and an expanded sphere of involvement and influence in others' lives - - far more than you initially imagine or conceive of. Trust your impulses toward generosity and have faith in a higher plan. Chapter 6: Soft Aspects The following is a description of your GIFTS and STRENGTHS which can help you as you work with your major life challenges. These are abilities and qualities of heart, mind and soul which are quite natural to you. You probably take them for granted. Because these represent the lines of least resistance for you, you may rely too much upon them at times; hence, there are some cautions suggested. Still, these are the areas where good flows into your life and/or where you have considerable inner resources. Sun Trine Saturn: Your ability to concentrate on a task or goal for long periods of time are strengths you may take for granted. Coupled with this is an innate shrewdness, worldly wisdom and ambition which enables you to achieve long range goals. Though you may (or may not) be idealistic and dreamy at times, you have a firm grasp of reality and of what it takes to operate successfully in practical and material terms. You want to be a "heavy weight", a person of substance, someone to be taken seriously and so you are willing to do the work, delay gratification and build something solid and enduring in your life. This capacity for self-discipline and for creating and maintaining stability in your life are gifts you can fall back on when faced with challenges in your life. Men, and particularly older men, will take an interest in your progress and prove to be a significant aid in achieving your life's aims. Moon Trine Mars: A hehy, vigorous spirit to overcome obstacles, the capacity to initiate projects and act decisively, and a certain purposeful, direct way of dealing with life, are gifts you have developed in the past and which you now may draw on at anytime. You have been a warrior and a leader, and were called upon to strike while the iron was hot, so that now you are quite capable of doing the same. You are innately competitive, and are apt to have good instincts and timing regarding when to act and when to take risks. Courage, boldness and physical prowess are also yours. In addition, you know how to stir people's emotions and mobilize public sentiment, to get other people acting and moving upon the things you care the most about. Neptune Sextile Pluto: Collectively, this is a time in history that enables you and those of your generation to advance spiritually through a heightened awareness of the invisible and intangible realms. A rebirth of spirituality through direct contact with higher forces is occurring in this generation. This contact takes many, many forms, including a compelling interest in life beyond death. You may or may not have a personal involvement with this, as it is a group karma rather than a primarily personal one. >> Take Care, Jennifer )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( PROMISE TO TRY Home of the FIRST Madonna Online Bookstore! Features Madonna Books, Audio, Video and More! All Proceeds go to BREAST CANCER AWARENESS AND PREVENTION! Almost $400.00 to date donated! Go Madonna Fans! Home of Family Affair-Keep It Together Unite With Over 250 Madonna Fans From Around The World! Links-Pictures-Madonna News-Picture Madonna Sent To Me, MORE!!! http://members.aol.com/MSCICCONE/main.html )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( )|( ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:19:27 +0200 From: cn971126@beirut.lau.edu.lb (_Nadra Christian Hanna) Subject: Re: )|(: BAD BILLBOARD CHARTS - -----Original Message----- From: - - - - j@son-DJ-EnGeL To: LAU ; MADONNA MAILING LIST Date: Thursday, November 26, 1998 5:34 AM Subject: Re: )|(: BAD BILLBOARD CHARTS >At 09:35 PM 25/11/98 +0200, _Nadra Christian Hanna wrote: > >>By the way Mariah Album enters the charts at number one. Alanis tumbles to >>number 8 Garth brooks is in the first Place :( Whitney debut at number 13 > >So which is it? > >You say Mariah enters at #1 .. and Garth is in first place? > > >- - - - - - - - - - j@son-DJ-EnGeL > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >http://www.madonnanet.com/mland -->MadonnaLand > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > Sorry I was nervous when typing this e-mail it was Garth and Maria at number 4 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:23:45 -0000 From: "Daniel John" Subject: )|(: Re: Mad About Madonna? Or dumb? Hi Jon, >Now, I also think that it is disgusting that fans are being thrown out, I >mean, not all of us are complete psychos, I don't know about you but I've >never got the sudden urge to kill my role-model. That would be revolting and >just dumb. > >I ALSO DO NOT agree that anyone who seemed to know the really mad fans should >have been kicked out, that is so horrible and I think I would have to call my >Madonna fan days as over if that happened to me, I mean, that's partly why I >am so afraid to ask for an autograph or something, if she said "No" then I >would be so mad I probably couldn't forgive that. I mean, it's only a piece of >dumb paper, although it does mean a lot to us. How would anyone know that you are a real fan and not a stalker or have a gun or something!! Madonna is a famous icon, and has to have security everywhere she goes. Look at it as if you were her, EVERYWHERE she goes, she gets mobbed! It was not nice on the people who got thrown out of TOTP studios, but the bodyguard is employed to keep Madonna safe, and for whatever reason, he decided that Marcus and people he thought were with him /around him, are not safe! Read Eriq's last message, I totally agree with him about.. >It's annoying to see jumpy corn pop bouncing silly fans constantly >following Madonna >and hounding the girl to see her. Why are you following her? What's the >point? Do you >collect her shit after she leaves the restroom? It's like HELLO! If there's >one thing fans should >respect, it's her privacy, especially after the whole stalker thing and in >respect for her >child and her personal life. Come on Madonna fans, RESPECT! ok. bye bye now. It is very selfish, to stalk Madonna all around the world, other people want autographs from her, and she has performances and media to do, for ALL her fans to see It is sad that the bouncer kicked people out, but it was his job! What is the point in hating Madonna now? "I am never gonna buy a record again" think how much pressure she is under. Bjork said recently about someone who is stalking her again [the 2nd one], that if people did not stop it, she is gonna go back to making music and not letting anyone here it, like she did in her childhood. Just be glad, Madonna does actually meet fans and still makes great music! Daniel - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ------- ~~ Happy Thanksgiving, to all my American Friends! ~ Contact Me @ http://surf.to/Contact.Me Homepage @ http://come.to/shoppingqueen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:51:01 CST From: "Anita Singh" Subject: )|(: Madonna, TV, "Truth or Dare" gameshow Just a little snippet from today's paper, Madonna want's to produce a syndicated TV version of her "Truth or Dare" movie as a sorta-game show with comedian Randy Kagan hosting. It could debut next fall. _________________________________________________ http://travel.to/TheMadonnaHaven _________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:10:31 -0000 From: "Steve" Subject: )|(: Re: fans out of TOTP > I agree. It's annoying to see jumpy corn pop bouncing silly fans constantly > following Madonna > and hounding the girl to see her. Why are you following her? What's the > point? Do you > collect her shit after she leaves the restroom? It's like HELLO! If there's > one thing fans should > respect, it's her privacy, especially after the whole stalker thing and in > respect for her > child and her personal life. Come on Madonna fans, RESPECT! ok. bye bye now. For God's sake Eriq, I do respect her! Which is why I'm so pissed that *I* got chucked out! - I simply didn't deserve it compared to some of those other fans. > I'm glad finally something gets done about these annoying fans like > Marcus who go on every Madonnarelated show to grab Madonna's attention. > Was that annoying bitch Michelle (also from 'Mad About Madonna') there? > I hope she got thrown out to. I'm sorry bt fans like Marcus and Michelle > must give Madonna a wrong image of how her fans are and I'm glad they > got taken care of. Actually Jos, those fans still got in there. It were the fans that WEREN'T on that show that got chucked out. And I'll have you know that we're not a bit like them. Go figure. Steve ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:18:09 EST From: StarTrip80@aol.com Subject: )|(: Madonna AT Celine's Network Concert!!! If anyone watched Celines beautiful concert last night. I can swear to god that Madonna was in the audience right before Rosie sang. Mabey that did that on purpose because MO and RO are such good friends. She still had black hair but it was very kinda slicked back and black lipstic (or some dark shade). Madonna has never said in the past anything disrupting about Celine, mabey she actually likes her music. Mabey not. Who knows, but I swear it was Madonna! Alan ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:36:15 +0000 From: "cjordan" Subject: Re: )|(: new Billboard charts Referring to what was posted below. I agree. How can number 1 hits of today compare to number 1 hits of yesterday. Billboard is not consistent. In my eyes, they have already lost credibility. Chris Joke! Joke! Joke! I'm glad that Billboard joined the "politically correct" movement by including a "wide genre of songs" in their charts. However, the new chart does not, whatsoever, reflect what is popular. I would expect that Billboard will lose great credibility within the next couple months. After 1992, they had already lost a lot of credibility and rightfully so. I'm sure they could easily develop a chart that would equally reflect sales and airplay. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:39:17 PST From: "Michael Histen" Subject: )|(: re: this week's billboard <<"From This Moment On" Shania Twain -- #5 *This song is designated on the chart as having a single, but the single was not for sale until yesterday (Tuesday). Perhaps Billboard immediately marks a song as commercially available whenever there is a commercial release.>> Sorry, you're incorrect here. "From This Moment On" was released on 11/17. I work at a record store and have been selling quite a few copies in the past week and a half. Just a minor note, though. :) What I am most surprised about is that Mariah Carey and JD's "Sweetheart" did not debut, since it was released on 11/17 as well, in combination with a special deal that you get the single free with your purchase of Carey's "Ones." There's certainly a lot of irony here... Mariah's worst performing single is released to promote an album called "#1s" that debuts at #4.... .._b***A/p =---------::> M!!!!i,^KE >>THIS< Subject: )|(: Madonna's Fave's Madonna has just picked her ALL TIME TOP 3 FAVOURITE SONGS on BBC Radio 1: 1. Bittersweet Symphony - The Verve 2. Rockerfella Skank - Fatboy Slim 3. Teardrop - Massive Attack Hello??? I hope she doesn't get Fatboy Slim (Norman Cook) to remix any of her own stuff. Elsewhere in the interview she chose "Candy Perfume Girl" as one song on RoL to get played. She also chose "Shanti" as an example of a primal, groove-driven track that Lourdes likes to listen to. The full interview with Simon Mayo (which lasted about 45 minutes including music and news-break) is available on the BBC website (www.bbc.co.uk). James. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:44:58 +0000 From: Dean Ismail Subject: Re: )|(: Madonna: Please DON'T work with any spice girl > I think she can find someone to have fun with who didn't reply to a > record company ad. Spice Girls were created by the industry. I > actually like a few SG songs (for fun) but I would never buy one of > their cds and support what's behind that fun. Oh dear. EVERYONE has to start somewhere. It's what they do AFTER they got there that matters (well, to me at least). Spice Girls may have started as a gimmick and a gimmick that sold buckets (millions)! They are still here now - even without the gimmick. They may not sell quite as much as before but that is by no means a yardstick of how good one is. Have you heard the new song GOODBYE. It's real good and quite a departure - as the song is rather personal and no silly lyrics etc. Is it really a terrible thing, answering to an ad - do you actually know how many budding pop/rock/rap (etc) who answer to ads like that? LOADS! And at the end of the day, those who strive are only the good/clever/talented ones. To put things into perspective - Madona: Surely you have heard in the past people saying: She's using sex/controvery to sell records. Now - there are LOTS others who did or try to do the same but they got nowhere! I think it's appropriate for me to say that we should look BEYOND the skin of things and not judge so easily. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:56:46 PST From: "Sandro Vrabl" Subject: )|(: I got a dependency Madonna certainly has been take fans souls with her eyes. And I really like it!!She's shown it in all her career, but not never ever seen yet, in Power Of Goodbye video clip. She took mine for granted and I really got a dependency. but how long it would last? Every new songs, every new acting and every new style have make people change. She's always trying to give us a way of thought. It seems like her music mixed to her ballads, get our minds and eyes blind out of the world, and make us just keeping her in mind. sorry if I'm telling it in a confusing way, but It's how I feel about it and I'm not so good in english. So please try to understand. that's my question, and as a brazilian fan I really appreciate all returns from you my friends. I'd like to know how you feel about her too. Thanxs for hearing and I'm waiting desespertantly for any return. Sandro Vrabl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:57:07 +0100 From: Dave Verzijl Subject: Re: )|(: Moving to London... Hi, You are saying she is doing SO much in Europe and not in the US. I think you are forgetting her performances at Rosie, Fashion Awards, that kids' thing, Oprah Winfrey and so on. Besides that ROL is doing better in Europe than in the US so I think Europe deserves her time. At 11:17 21-11-98 EST, you wrote: >I think that Madonna just needs to stay in her own country for a while. She >always does those Mini tours in the UK, but never in the US. Many of her fans >in the US are getting fed up with the fact that she never perfoms here >anymore. Except for the award shows where normal people cant get in those >anyways. Greetings, )|( Dave Verzijl )|( http://www.boy13.com/mainpage/ "Nothing really matters, love is all we need" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:12:57 +0100 From: Dave Verzijl Subject: Re: )|(: "ROL" unreleased tracks?? hi, "Has To Be" appeared on the single to ROL world-wide, not only in Spain :) At 13:20 23-11-98 +0100, you wrote: >"Has to be" appeared also in the Spanish release of the cd-single ROL, >not only in the Japanese. "Veronica electronica" comes from the MTV's >ultrasound about the making of the album ROL and the videoclip Frozen. Greetings, )|( Dave Verzijl )|( Visit the Madonnapower! Mailorder site for many hard-to-get remix-cd's http://www.boy13.com/garden/remixed.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:39:39 +0000 From: "G.J. Peterse" Subject: )|(: Collectors READ! POG UK Issues! Hi All! I just came back from Paris! Bought some cool items again at Lucky Records! But: There are in total three picture CD's Made! 1. German CD Single 2 tracks incl. Mer Girl 2. UK CD Single, 3 tracks. Picture Sleeve and CD say as Title: Power Of Goodbye 3. UK CD Single, 3 tracks (same as above, also same catalog number). Sleeve and CD say as title: Power Of Goodbye and (!) subtitle: Mer Girl! By the way; like e'thing the last couple of years: it's all pressed and packaged in Alsdorf, Germany! It's not a French issue (none of them are!) it's also not part 1 and Part 2. I bought my copy with the subtitle at Lucky Records. The one without subtitle is everywhere in the main stores! Maybe some misprints..... See Ya! Arjan Amsterdam - ------------------------------------------------------- Tulip Inn Amsterdam! The Place to Stay! e-mail: reservations@tiamsterdam.goldentulip.nl WWW: http://www.goldentulip.com - ------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:54:26 -0500 (EST) From: bd078@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark E. Hricko) Subject: )|(: William Orbit, Madonna, Shep Pettibone, Vogue, and Circles a few months ago Alex Snell suggested getting the *excellent* cd _Waltz Darling_ by Malcolm McLaren and the Bootzilla Orchestra. so, finally, while doing some christmas shopping, i stopped at cdnow.com and ordered it. what an excellent cd. any fan of Madonna would appreciate this cd, especially the track "Deep in Vogue." it is without a doubt something that Madonna heard when writing Vogue. oh yeah, William Orbit provided additional remixing of the song. check these lyrics out: "This has got to be a special tribute to the houses of New York Le Beija, Extravaganza, Magnifique, st. Laurent, Omni, Ebony, Dupree In my black tights just throwing shade Doing this dance that some queen made I remember the first time I saw it, Told my brother to put me up on it, It wasn't easy no 1,2,3 Took a long time to learn to feel free But here I am Vogueing pretty In some club deep in this city Deep in Vogue, Deep in Vogue Imagine runway modelling, in freeze frame At the ball that's what they call Vogueing Vogueing is a challenge dance Instead of fighting you take it out on the dance floor 10!, 10!, 10!, 10!, 10!, 10! are there anymore! Sometimes on a legendary night Like the closing of the garage When the crowd is calling down the spirits Listen, and you will hear all the houses that walked there before Deep in Vogue, Deep in Vogue The House of Extravaganza the House of Depree, Who the hell are they? Theyrre nobody, except when they're in that little ballroom." i have a feeling that some of the spoken parts of the song are from the film _Paris is Burning_. also the track listing in the cd says "Introducting Lourdes & Willie Ninja." Willie Ninja is one of the central figures as the Mother of the House of Ninja in the film. also, on track seven, there is a reference to "Introducting Miss Ndea." if one remembers, the three backup singers for the song Vogue that appears on _I'm Breathless..._ are Niki Haris, Donna DeLory, and Ndea Davenport. honestly, i dont know how common the name Ndea is, but it is certainly possible that she is connected to both this album and Madonna's Vogue. by the way, this album came out in 1989. _I'm Breathless..._ in 1990. as a random note, the album was released by Epic one of ex-famed CBS Records subsidiaries (before Sony boutht CBS and destroyed it). by the way, Bootsy Collins appears quite a bit on this album--i *know* i *know* that name from somewhere, but i cant place it. any suggestions? - --me - -- Mark E. Hricko <> "All he ever talks about Saint Ignatius High School `92 <> is sex!" Hiram College `96 <> "No, all you ever *listen* to bd078@cleveland.Freenet.Edu <> him talk about is sex." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 13:03:13 -0800 (PST) From: Dita Parlow Subject: )|(: Order of Release I just know you guys are going to think I'm the biggested idiot in the world (Remember, you were "newbies" once too! :-), but can someone please tell me if I have this in order? Madonna Like a Virgin True Blue Who's That Girl You Can Dance Like a Prayer I'm Breathless Immaculate Collection Erotica Bedtime Stories Something to Remember Evita Ray of Light Thanks in advance! MEGAN _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:05:37 +0100 From: "Alex J." Subject: )|(: Euro tour - Spanish performance of DW & POG >Ok those of you in europe. Which shows did she sing live on besides MTV and >which did she lip-synch? I can tell you about the awesome performance that Madonna did in Spain. It was recorded on tuesday 17th, and aired by TVE1 last monday. She sang POG and DW live. Drowned World performance was completely awesome, she sound great, and she didn't stop dancing the song... there is a moment when she shakes her head up and down, messing all her dark hair... it was like living back the Like a Prayer era. It was by far the best of her european performances, along with the interview. I can't transcribe it, it's very long.. but I can tell you I laughed all through the interview, specially with the question about her "pussy". For those of you who are able to catch TVE INTERNATIONAL keep the eyes open for this great program: remember next monday with Alanis, and the other week it's Madonna's. Alex J. www.ciudadfutura.com/madonna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:30:51 PST From: "bret ." Subject: )|(: Forcing Singles Hi Everyone- Did anyone think of the new Billboard Charts this way... It's almost like they are forcing record companies to release singles in order to get #1 singles. Before if there wasn't a single released, the song wouldn't be tracked on the chart and would be mostly forgotten. Now the song will still chart and be compared to others but it would be almost impossible to go to #1 without a single. I don't know if i'm making any sense. hahaha!! mariah's "#1's" doesn't look like it will go to #1!!! this is hilarious because it's what her whole career is based around. I can't belive anybody would buy an album called "#1's" how much more stuck on herself can she really be?? Madonna called her createst hits "Something To Remember" and "The Immaculate Collection" not my "number ones" But then again, that's why i like Madonna. and Whitney.... HAHAHA!!! she looks like SHIT on the cover of her album!!! BreT ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// my page: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Backstage/4409/index.html ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:36:46 -0600 From: "Eduardo Ramirez Solis" Subject: )|(: Santa baby ALBUM lyrics? Can someone please tell me where can I find the lyrics of the "A very special Christmas" album, featuring Madonna's Santa Baby?. Yeah, I know most of those songs are english traditional tunes and you learnt them since you started to speak, but english is not my native tongue. Please help me with this, if some of you has the lyrics, please tell me. TIA __ ___ __ ____ / / / | / / / __ \ Eduardo Ramirez Solis (erami@gemtel.com.mx) / / / /| | / / / / / / 17 oriente # 1603 Fracc. "El Angel" / /___/ ___ |/ /__/ /_/ / c.p. 72500 Puebla,Pue. Mexico /_____/_/ |_/_____|____/ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/6104 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:36:47 -0600 From: "Eduardo Ramirez Solis" Subject: )|(: Billboard awards performance Now that POG has fallen on the Top 100, and hopelessly lose its chance to be a top 10, Madonna must NOT perform POG at the BB awards. Instead, she should introduce her new single, which I pray would be "SWIM" (forget SFH, NRM, CPG, etc) SWIM is a musical jewel, and it'll be great to hear it live at the BB awards. Just my 2 cents. __ ___ __ ____ / / / | / / / __ \ Eduardo Ramirez Solis (erami@gemtel.com.mx) / / / /| | / / / / / / 17 oriente # 1603 Fracc. "El Angel" / /___/ ___ |/ /__/ /_/ / c.p. 72500 Puebla,Pue. Mexico /_____/_/ |_/_____|____/ http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Delphi/6104 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:58:56 -0000 From: "D&A" Subject: )|(: European Chart Update... Hi Everyone... This information is taken from MTV Text on MTV UK & Ireland: The Power Of Good Bye is at the following chart positions: Austria 9 New Entry Germany 6 2nd Week Non Mover Yugoslavia 4 3rd Week 1 - 3 - 4 Ray Of Light: Germany 7 Moving up from number 10 MTV Top 20 The Power Of Good Bye is number 11 Alex.R:) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 09:16:17 +1000 From: "Scott Ham" Subject: )|(: Re: POG falls on Billboard -- a lot >"From This Moment On" Shania Twain -- #5* >*This song is designated on the chart as having a single, but the single was >not for sale until yesterday (Tuesday). Perhaps Billboard immediately marks >a song as commercially available whenever there is a commercial release. This is incorrect, Jimmie. The single was released on Tuesday the 17th, and debuted on the Hot 100 Singles Sales chart this week at #6. Indeed, if it were *not* available as a commercial single, it would not have been anywhere near the Top 10, considering its #22 airplay position. The biggest airplay hit in the country only ranks #9 on the new Hot 100 ("Iris"). Scott. The chart also has some large backward bullets, most notably "Pushin' Weight" by Ice Cube which loses 16 spots but earns a bullet and "My Little Secret" by Xscape which loses 21 spots but earns a bullet. Alanis's "Thank U" came in at an unbulleted #17. As for "Super Tuesday" and its impact on the album charts, here are the top ten albums for the week and the top ten debuts for the week: Albums: 1) Garth, "Double Live"; 2) Method Man, "Tical 2"; 3) Jewel, "Spirit"; 4) Mariah Carey, "#1s"; 5) Celine Dion, "These Are Special Times"; 6) The Offspring, "Americana"; 7) Ice Cube, "War"; 8) Alanis, "Supposed Former Infatuation Junkie"; 9) N'Sync, "N'Sync"; 10) Jay Z, "Vol. 2" Hard Knock Life. Debuts by artist only: 1) Garth, 2) Method Man, 3) Jewel, 4) Mariah, 5) Offspring, 6) Ice Cube, 7) Whitney (#13), 8) Seal (#22), 9) Geto Boys (#26), 10) Prince of Egypt soundtrack (#94) Madonna's "Ray of Light" album ended up at an all-time low of #61, but it did have nine debuts in front of it. I await further information on Billboard and the new chart system, especially the ranking of "When You Believe" (which is not in the top 50). One last note: "Truly Madly Deeply" by Savage Garden drops off the chart, thus meaning that the new charting system has smashed that single's chances of earning the record of longest chart dweller (LeAnn is protected for quite a while). Check ya check ya... James manningj@esuvm.emporia.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:00:17 +0000 From: Dean Ismail Subject: )|(: tina turner chooses Madonna! She chose Human Nature as one of her ten most fave. videos.... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 01:02:54 +0100 From: Peter Hofmann Subject: )|(: EBEL EMAIL ADDRESS For all the people that ask me the Ebel email address to ask for the pictures and that I couldn't mail....... This is the email address were you can ask for the Free Promo material. sales@ebel.ch Good Luck and let me know if it whas working with you too. love, peter ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 22:16:37 -0200 From: "Marcelo" Subject: )|(: WAYF - INTERESTING results! WAYF= where are you from? a survey to estimate some facts about the distribution of the members of this list around the world. I received many answers and I also compiled information from Jennifer's page : http://ww.members.aol.com/MSCICCONE/index.html ,where you can see an enormous list of Madonna fans (including myself and many of you) with the country where they live and other info.I was very careful in not counting the same person twice. In total I computed 325 PEOPLE !!! Thank you Jennifer and everyone who participated. If you can't wait you can rush to the results 2 paragraphs below, but I have a little more to say: The main ambition which motivated the survey is to know the actual distribution of Madonna fans across the world. I wish this sample of 325 fans would be very representative of the former. Nevertheless, there are many reasons that can drive the sample away of a good portrait of the global distribution; I'll call these reasons error factors. This might be a good sample of this mailing list. According to the moderator there are currently some 600 subscribers. However, when considering these subscribers as a sample of all the fans who access internet we start to deal with more error factors: the language we use here is english and this fact imposes a condition to the sample. There will be very likely a tendency to concentrate on people from countries where english is a very well known language. Similarly, if we took all the internet fans as a sample of ALL the fans on earth, the error factor would punish the countries where internet is less diffused. Maybe the best indicators of the global distribution of fans we have are the albums sales.I found numbers to compare the sales in the United States with the rest of the world: the total sales of M; LaV; TB; WtG; YCD; LaP; IB; IC; Er; BS; StR; Ev (sales untill september 1997.source:Icon) and RoL(sales untill november.source: Icon) are distributed as follows: United States: 40.42 % Rest of the World: 59.58 % This distribution is not very different of the result of our WAYF sample: US: 48.31 % ; Rest of the World: 51.69 % Besides being Madonna's country the US have the third largest population in the world (after China and India - according to the Times Atlas of the World,population statistics from 1990/1991). Here are other results of the WAYF sample: 1-Participation of the english language in the total of the sample: a)English speaking countries(including Malta,Malaysia,Philippines,India and Lebanon, where english is not official but is a relatively important language): 71.08% (people from the US are 67.98% of all these english speaking people) b)English speaking countries(only countries where english is an official language): 66.46% (people from the US are 72.68% of these) 2- 18.34% of the people from countries where english is not official are from Brazil, and this is the greatest participation among these countries (here we are, flooding the list with bad english!:-). Brazil is followed by Sweden: 8.25% of non english speakers are swedish. 3-Participation of each country(alphabetical order) in the total of the sample, in %: Argentina- 0.61 Australia(see distribution among states below)- 4.92 Brazil(see distribution among states below)- 6.15 Canada(see distribution among provinces below)- 5.23 Colombia- 0.61 Denmark- 0.61 Estonia- 0.31 Finland- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) France- 1.23 (5.19% of the Europeans in the sample) Germany- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) Greece- 0.31 Hong Kong- 0.61 Iceland- 0.31 India- 0.31 Ireland(Eire)- 0.31 Italy- 2.15 (9.09% of Europeans) Japan- 0.92 Lebanon- 0.92 Macedonia- 0.31 Malaysia- 1.23 (16% of Asians) Malta- 0.61 Mexico- 0.61 Netherlands- 2.46 (10.39% of Europeans) New Zealand- 1.23 Nicaragua- 0.31 Norway- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) Philippines- 1.54 (20% of Asians) Poland- 0.61 Portugal- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) Romania- 0.31 Russia- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) Saudi Arabia- 0.31 Singapore- 1.23 (16% of Asians) Slovenia- 0.31 South Africa- 0.31 Spain- 0.92 (3.89% of Europeans) Sweden- 2.77 (11.69% of Europeans, 52.94% of Scandinavians) Switzerland- 1.23 (5.19% of Europeans) Turkey- 0.61 United Kingdom(see distribution among countries below)- 4.31 (18.18% of Europeans) United States(see distribution among states below)- 48.31 Venezuela- 0.31 3-Dividing the number of people (in the sample) from each country by its population(source: Times Atlas of the World) in millions, the greatest concentrations of Madonna fans would be in: Malta Island: 5.6179 people in each 1 million habitants of the island were in the sample! Iceland: 3.9216 Singapore: 1.3324 New Zealand: 1.1799 Sweden: 1.0443 Lebanon: 0.9375 Australia: 0.9364 4-Participation of each continent in the total of the sample,in %: AMERICAS- 62.15 (13.86% of the americans are from Latin America; 86.14% are from the US and Canada; 77.72% of the americans are from the US !) AFRICA- 0.31 (only one person, from South Africa) ASIA- 7.69 EUROPE- 23.69 (22.09% of the europeans are from Scandinavia; 12.99% are from Eastern Europe-including Greece and Russia; 64.93% are from Western Europe) OCEANIA(Australia and New Zealand)- 6.15 (80% of these are from Australia) 5-Distribution among the Australian States: New South Wales(everyone from Sidney)- 18.75% of the australians in the sample Queensland- 12.50% Victoria- 18.75% Not identified- 50% 6-Distribution among the Brazilian States: Not identified- 40% Alagoas- 5% Amazonas- 5% Goiás- 5% Paraná- 5% Rio Grande do Sul- 10% Rio de Janeiro- 20% (1.23% of the total of the sample are fluminenses) São Paulo- 10% 7-Distribution among the Canadian Provinces: not identified- 11.76% Alberta(everyone from Calgary)- 17.65% British Columbia- 17.65% Newfoundland- 5.88% Nova Scotia- 5.88% Ontario(most from Toronto)- 41.18% (2.15% of the total of the sample) 8-Distribution among the countries of the United Kingdom: not identified- 7.14% England- 78.57% (3.38% of the total of the sample) Northern Ireland- 0% Scotland- 7.14% Wales- 7.14% 9-Distribution among the 50 United States, in %: not identified 1.27 Alabama 0.64 Alaska 0 Arizona 2.58 Arkansas 0 California 14.01! highest participation (6.77% of the total of the sample are from California) Colorado 2.58 Connecticut 2.58 Delaware 0 Florida 7.01 (3.38% of the total sample) Georgia 1.91 Hawaii 0 Idaho 0 Illinois 5.09 Indiana 2.58 Iowa 0.64 Kansas 0.64 Kentucky 1.27 Louisiana 0.64 Maine 1.27 Maryland 2.58 Massachussets 2.58 Michigan(where it all began) 4.46 (2.15% of the total sample) Minnesota 1.27 Mississippi 1.91 Missouri 2.58 Montana 1.27 Nebraska 0.64 Nevada 0 New Hampshire 1.91 New Jersey 3.18 New Mexico 1.27 New York 7.01 (3.38% of the total sample) North Carolina 1.27 North Dakota 0.64 Ohio 6.37 (3.08% of the total sample) Oklahoma 0.64 Oregon 0.64 Pennsylvania 3.18 Rhode Island 0 South Carolina 0 South Dakota 0 Tennessee 1.27 Texas 3.82% (1.85% of the total sample) Utah 1.27 Vermont 0 Virginia 1.27 Washington 0.64 West Virginia 0 Wisconsin 2.58 Wyoming 1.27 10-Dividing the number of people (in the sample) from each state by its population(source: Times Atlas of the World,statistics from 1990/1991) in millions, the greatest concentrations of Madonna fans would be in: Wyoming: 4.4444 people in each 1 million habitants of the Equality State were in the sample! New Hampshire: 2.7198 Montana: 2.5189 North Dakota: 1.5773 New Mexico: 1.3423 Connecticut: 1.2395 Colorado: 1.2225 The End That's it folks. Comments and corrections are welcome. Hope you have enjoyed.I hope this survey gave good ideas to the great Madonna researchers out there! Marcelo Araújo I Am From: Rio de Janeiro,Brazil Madonna gave the word.Great was the company of the preachers! ------------------------------ End of Madonna-Digest V7 #447 *****************************